Hebrews 9. Satan’s aim is to destroy our joy in God and, thus, belittle God. Does it not shine? in the world? and their brother Lazarus. Trust the goodness of God and let him be your treasure and your joy. This is harder, probably, in terms of spiritual vitality and in terms of keeping our kids from being destroyed. The rape and dismemberment of a young girl is a pointless evil. He would rather have him dead if it would produce more faith than keep him alive it would produce less faith. Especially if you want to be obedient, you will be. Is this sin? And in verse nine she says: “Do you still hold fast to your integrity? God has got designs in pleasure. If we lay hold of God's Word it will lay hold … The Bible does not assume that every particular evil has a particular godly purpose behind it. Should we receive good at the hand of God and shall we not receive evil? is always perfect? All the wealth of a man evidently in this culture was defined in terms of his servants and his cattle and sheep and his asses and his camels and they are gone and his children are gone. You go to the mission field and die at 36, I will have 10,000 times more joy than if you lived here till 86 and you died an unbeliever. Satan says he spends all of his time going to and fro on the earth, moving around from the earth. perfect. a. CATASTROPHICALLY LATE. It is: What in heaven is going on. suffering as of late, I hope that this message has uplifted your spirit. of a time where you felt that God was slow with His assistance. We have seen the text, get the lay of the land here. That is, it is ok to say you are mad at God if you are mad at God. So when it comes, should I not remember the 31 years as an absolutely undeserved bounty instead of getting mad that he should have given me twenty more of a healthy body or a healthy wife? And I want to say explicitly at the beginning it is all built on Christ. We just see the truth. Let’s not be too hard on this woman, because she has now seen all of her husband’s wealth evaporate and she has barely begun to grieve over ten crushed children and now her husband gets a disease that is so horrid she can’t touch him. I get four. I am 54 and I have vowed I have enjoyed 31 years of wonderful marriage, sexual delights, a friend of my soul, a woman who stands with me, edits my books, raises my children, is willing to let me go out and do things. First, a voice that is not contemporary, William Barkley. Verse 16 is blow number two. Adulterers grow big churches. Now that is a great assault on God’s glory, a great assault on God’s value in Job’s heart. And his wife caves, which is so understandable. Now on the heels of ... and you just can’t believe this, can you? Don’t talk like that.”. HOLD ON TO YOUR FAITH! The reason we know it is not a contraction is because in Job 1:22 it says, “In all this Job did not sin or cause God with wrong.” This means what he said in verse 21 is not sin, “The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away.”. The holocaust is a pointless evil. will we receive if we remain faithful to God? Even when God seems 1,000 miles away One is in Ukraine and one is in Guatemala and one is in Chicago and two are at home and we got them all there. Here is the... you say: aren’t we supposed to rejoice in tribulation? Let’s read it: His sons used to go and hold a feast in the house of each one on his day and they would send and invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them. illustration of this unseen presence is described in (Luke 24:13-35). We are going to generalize for a few minutes. All right. be late with His assistance, I would like to say that His timing is always So we are going to step back now and draw out truths. He doesn’t use the word forgiveness, but that is the essence of it, that they might be forgiven for their sin against Job. It coheres with the rest of the Bible and we embrace it as Scripture, as God’s Word and then we try to understand it. Maybe it wasn’t the fire of God, but we will check that out and see what Job thinks and whether the writer of the book agrees with Job, but right now the assessment is this is the fire of God that has fallen and destroyed all the sheep and the servants with them. Get off it, God. And here is a quote from John Sanders’s book, The God Who Risks, published a year or two ago: God does not have a specific, divine purpose for each and every occurrence of evil. Do what you want.” And sure, Satan is involved in our lives big time harassing. My friends, if we are faithful, God is walking But even though at times God seems to Now he was a liberal and his view of the atonement and his view of the Bible and his view of suffering were atrocious in my judgment and it is a shame that we are so undeserving that he would be staple in our preparations, I think. Paul warrants Job by calling it Scripture and then describing Scripture as inspired. I was keeping the faith that our sisterly love would prevail. God does not have a specific purpose in mind for these occurrences. Yes! DURING OUR TIMES OF SUFFERING, GOD IS NEAR EVEN WHEN HE SEEMS SO FAR AWAY. And it is just all Godward. Suppose you are a jeweler and you have a jewelry store and you come back late at night and you walk in there is a thief there and you say: Oh, by the way, have you seen the big diamond in the front window? It is no accident. Only Daniel 4:35. Now God is not a fool and he is not a bumbler. We are coming back to what we skipped in just a moment, but we will come back for a specific reason. No particular time, no particular place, no particular kind of author. You have it on loan from God. Or the love that is discovered or whatever. Thank you that my dad is still alive. Let’s make sure we don’t miss how strange this is. SECOND, In (Rom. It is great to celebrate and we ought to celebrate the positive, glorious gifts of God. Another messenger comes and says that the Chaldeans had raided the camel herd and taken them all and killed the servants. You kind of want to shake Job here and say, “No, no, no, no, no, no. This book is 42 chapters long and I have four hours. And I will tell you who they are because they might have their books downstairs and if they do, read them, critically just as you read mine critically. He shaved his head. It says so. DURING OUR TIMES OF SUFFERING, GOD IS NEAR EVEN WHEN HE SEEMS SO FAR AWAY. It is right to say you are mad at God if you are mad at God. My mother was killed when I was 28 in a car accident and I discovered it real quick that joy and weeping can exist simultaneously in one heart, heaving sobs, heaving sobs can exist simultaneously with thank you, thank you, thank you for her life. That is just amazing. So you add a statement of his reverence to evidences of God’s favor in his life. You can use another word if you want. So what in the world is going on? And God in some inscrutable way admits him into some kind of conversation and he says: Have you considered Job as a target? I didn’t know you were the devil. illustrate God's unseen presence in time of need. We just know that the apostolic authority is on it. So we cleave to him and when we cleave to him in the face of suffering we are a mirror of his worth. Most people in the world have no experience of lasting joy in their lives. God doesn’t have to prove anything to anybody. Learn to cry. They are immediately theological and personal and practical and pastoral significance and they are opposed in many places. That is good. And after you have suffered a little … You are not his treasure. See the circularity of this? That is the inspired writer’s interpretation of where this ultimately came from — God. If you saw it, you would probably want to throw up. be late with His assistance, I would like to say that His timing is always The superior worth of God. In ten minutes, he explains where that idea came from, and why he believes it is biblical. The enemy of our soul seeks to discourage us, God’s people, because he knows that it won’t be long before Jesus Christ returns. This is one of the reasons I don’t like the health, wealth and prosperity gospel. And the only way not to get angry at God is to have your faith in his sovereign goodness so massively grounded that when the waves break over you, you already have categories in your mind and affections in your heart that can handle that. He doesn’t get one more mention in the whole book. How could I practice being content in a situation … So I preached probably the fifth sermon I preached in my church was “Christ and Cancer,” so they would know what I say when I come to their hospital room right after they have been shaving and they suddenly feel something a little strange here and they go to get it checked out and their life is never the same. faith just because we go through suffering situations. So let’s go back now and figure out what is happening in heaven. It is never okay to be mad at God. Verses four and five describe a specific instance, now, I think, of Job’s fear of God. Blessed be the name of the Lord in the face of ten dead children. He does whatever he pleases. We were riding to our little cabin up there, this little four-year-old who is not here anymore and we read the gospels to her over and over and over again every day and we said, "Maybe you will see a deer!” And she said, “Maybe I will see a fox in his hole.” I said, “Yes!” Because you know what she is quoting, don’t you? How to Persevere and Hold On to Your Faith. Some people believe that God is the one who This is from God at War: Neither Jesus nor his disciples assumed that there had to be a divine purpose behind all events in history. You can see it even more clearly when they are living lives of joy in suffering. You can draw them out for yourself and we will pick them up tomorrow. look at some biblical principles that we should reflect on while we are going And you don’t deserve to have it at all. brought the disaster so they blame Him and give up their faith. urgent note to Jesus, saying, “Lord, the one you love is sick” (v. Isn’t it amazing I have had her for 31 years? He is blameless. Every man’s commendation will be from the Lord. So the question is: What in the world is going on? Job 5:12 quoted in 1 Corinthians 3:19. There is opening, seeping of these sores and they are from the top of his head in his hair, on his face, on his neck and chest, on down to the bottom of his feet. And second, he loved his kids. The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away. 5:7) tells us to cast all our anxiety on Him because He cares for The accident that caused my brother’s death was a tragedy. I am a sinner. Lighting is called it “the fire of God,” (Job 1:6) although Satan is to blame has acted. David experienced a feeling of isolation from It is almost there, 159 sermons. They all grew up here. And God is very pleased with Job and the reason is that Job’s faith and Job’s reverence is an echo of the glory of God which is the thing God loves most. Not that there are two great truths, I mean, powers in the universe. Your life is a gift. For Job said, “Perhaps my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” And thus Job did continually. a tragic situation, blame God and give up on their faith? Paul’s main problem with God is that things go well for sinners. You can do that so that God doesn’t have to do it as severely. Download leader's notes in Microsoft Word, __________________________________________________________________________. You can do it voluntarily, all you rich folks. GOD'S TIMING IS PERFECT WITH HIS ASSISTANCE, EVEN WHEN HE APPEARS I have been kneeling at my prayer bench in my study. He was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil. And, no, nothing has. So many people are mad at God and so many pastors are telling them it is okay. Job 2:7–8. Shall we receive 31 years of good marriage at the hand of the Lord and not receive ten years with cancer? I would like to prepare you in your mind for the way of thinking about God and in your heart with a way of embracing God for your calamity because it is coming. You put your forth your hand now and touch his bone and his flesh, — in other words, not just his kids and his cattle, his bone and his flesh — and he will curse you to your face. God said, “He is in your power. You will tend to get angrier and angrier because your priorities are if he loves me he will do — and then you put your list and it is not his list. It wasn’t sin that brought this down on Job’s head. difficult times. That is scary theology because it seems to set us up to have to lose things in order to show our real metal. He doesn’t know anything about hygiene, zero. You desire to live a godly life, will be persecuted. This is not a contradiction to say count it all joy and say rejoice in tribulation and to weep your eyes out when your kid goes wrong. Hebrews 11. Job’s reverence, it turns out, is not mercenary. Mahaney has got a wonderful way when somebody asks him: How are you doing? He didn’t want them to come under the judgment of God. God. He uses pain to make us feel that God is powerless and hostile and he uses pleasure to make us feel that God is unnecessary. Aren’t we supposed to count it all joy? Let’s join with Job. There is real plain. So he scrapes himself with this dirty thing and worms begin to grow in it. He is known for his reverence to God. Practice Contentment. When we suffer, we naturally want God You see, we Americans, we are so rights driven that we transfer it to God as though he owes us anything. So again it is the worth of God that is at stake. Brethren, it is common and natural to feel That would be bigger.

The Bible is a love letter for instruction and reflection. He didn’t want them to perish. Satan, it says, afflicts him with these boils. Hold on to your faith. Shall we receive Good at the hand of God and not receive evil? You are speaking like a foolish woman. That is all that we are going to cover tonight. feel isolated from Him. He said to her: “You speak as one of the foolish women.” Meaning, you are not one of them, are you? You say: How do you know there are worms in it? A little piece of news for you. You know, sometimes I have thought about that. us. God exults in Job’s reverence in God. That is the issue in Job’s life. 1Co 16:13 ¶ Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong. I have got five kids and guys lined up there. sometimes, we think that He can be agonizingly slow in solving the problems “Behold, he is in your power. I mean little troubles come in batches. So we are thinking mainly in terms of gratitude, when we ought to be thinking mainly in terms of adoration — affection and delight and trust and the preciousness of his personal communion, which is what we will have the minute we die when we lose everything else. This is the reason the universe was created. Lean into it and bear through the discomfort that comes from trusting in what … That is blow number one. He is a lion roaming around trying to destroy the Saints, but he is on a leash and God gives it and he pulls it according to his sovereign will. Maybe they have six weeks. And when the days of feasting had completed their cycle, Job would send and consecrate them rising up early in the morning and offering burnt offerings according to the number of them all. isolated from God when we experience difficult times, however, the Bible Hebrews 10:23 in all English translations. You have got your health insurance policy. And that is Satan’s success, soil number three in the parable of the soils. Curse God and die.”. Quote from Greg Boyd: When an individual inflicts pain on another individual, I do not think we can go looking for the purpose of God in the event. King James Version (KJV) Public Domain . 23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith … And I invite you to, like Jesus. Thoughts from daily Bible reading for today – August 29, 2017. The pleasures of this world choke out the Word of God. In this study, we will Only spare his life” (Job 2:6). Nobody curses God and gets away with it. In this passage, two of Jesus’ disciples were Blessed be the name of the Lord. “Behold,” God said, “all that he has is in your power. that we are going to suffer in many different ways. Evangelical pastors fed on those liberal commentaries because they were so practically useful. Drop down to verse 3 and here comes the calamity. Satan is after our joyful faith in God and if he can ruin it, he will make God look worthless to the world. Those who have the Holy Spirit groan inwardly, Romans 8 says, awaiting our adoption and redemption of our bodies. We are going to try to go for gold. Life is war there because kids are being sold into slavery and Christians are having parts of their bodies cut off and being branded — suffering horrendous things. CATASTROPHICALLY LATE. It teaches us about perseverance through a prolonged struggle. For it is written and then he quotes Job 5:9 or 5:12, 5:9 is quoted probably in Romans 11. This is a little illustration. PSALM 18:30 NIV “As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless. do. Only upon himself do not put forth your hand.” And then come the calamities that we have already seen. Don’t feel guilty about that. What in the world is going on is not the only question to ask. Psalm 63:3. (John 11:1-46) tells the story of Mary, Martha, Big troubles come in batches. Now I think in heaven at this moment just before those words were spoken as she said: “Curse God and die,” a great smile came across Satan’s face. Only spare his life.” So “You can do with his body what you want.” And now what happens? It was God Almighty and her confidence in his loving, purposefulness for these kids though that and not in spite of that, that kept her going. FIRST, DURING OUR TIMES OF SUFFERING, GOD IS NEAR EVEN WHEN HE SEEMS SO FAR AWAY. through difficult times. Life is war whether things are going well and life is war when things are going bad. Yes. Wrestle with whether to live in a hole — or a nest, or a certain kind of house, or how much money to give, and what to keep. Thank you for the family. He fell on the ground and he worshiped. it is not an easy question. And so verse 11 Satan says: Put forth your hand now and touch all that he has and he will curse you to your face. God is not bumbling here. Rejoice in suffering Paul says in Romans 5:3. Hold on to your faith in God’s Word! Bible Gateway … I just want to die and go to heaven when I read that. And the way he insinuates it is by saying: Well, who wouldn’t if they have camels and asses and cows and sheep and servants and health and ten kids and the greatest man in the east. He comes from roving around this lion, this hateful murderer, liar, deceiver from the beginning. How can a just God just say to sinners: I forgive you, no penalty, no hell, no jail time. 23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) Read full chapter. God knows the heart of Job. And the only way not to get angry at God is to have your faith in his sovereign goodness so massively grounded that when the waves break over you, you already have categories in your mind and … In (Psalm 13:1), how did David feel Brethren, we must never give up on God and our You have got your house. They love you. But when they heard Job say: “Shall we not receive evil at the hand of God as well as good?” Twenty thousand arms, angelic arms went up. In John 10, Jesus quotes from Psalm 82, saying, “You are gods.” Does this mean human beings are gods, or is something else going on? Job says, “the Lord took away.” And now God says: “You [Satan] moved me against him.” Now, God is the one who gave him into Satan’s power! abandon his faith. You are trustees of every breath you take, every movement of a healthy muscle. So there are answers and I will give you my answers in these next four hours together, but my goal is that pastorally I would, for those of you will agree and will have it, build into your mind just a little more firmly a vision of God — of heaven, of life, of hell, of suffering, of Christ, of the ways of providence that will establish you so deeply, so that when the wave breaks over you, you won’t lose your footing and get mad at God. 1. A wonderful He still holds fast to his integrity, although you moved me against him. The psalmist didn’t and Jeremiah didn’t. It says Job was afflicted with loathsome sores from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head and he took a potsherd — a little broken piece of pot — with which to scrape himself and he sat among the ashes. He is right on the brink. And then repent twice. So how does he do when hear hears of his loss? And if that isn’t more precious to us than what we lose, what have we got in our Christianity? It is universal. International Standard Version. Sometimes you can see it when they are living lives of gratitude in prosperity. I don’t presume to give you all the answers. But how do we hold on to that faith throughout all the things we go through in life? I don’t feel guilty at all about that twentieth-anniversary celebration. perfect. Well, I am a pastor and I have been in a church now for 20 years, and if that were my message, I would quit in a minute, because I did bury a 38-year-old mother of four after breast cancer and she, on a video like these screens, spoke to us about some weeks before she died. Here is what God says: “Behold, he is in your power. AND TRUST IN GOD. walking toward a village called Emmaus. And therefore when God takes it he is doing you no wrong. Please consider supporting our ministry by becoming a monthly partner. So there is the scene. That was from Letters from a Skeptic. I don’t know why. So this is a huge problem from the justice and God. It is called open theism and it is represented by people like Clarke Pinnock and John Sanders. Some of you are in it and others of you will have to wait some time for it. Even when God seems 1,000 miles away We know what Paul believes about Scripture from 2 Timothy 3:16: “All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable.”. He is not: “Oh, I didn’t know you are a thief. He is very, very proud of this man. This is the reason you were created. Now, this is very strange of God. What is Christian Hedonism? Got all the pleasures you want? Will you become a rebel against God if you get home and they are all dead? America is dying because things are going well, not because things are going badly. Oh, I loved seeing my boys on the pew with their mom and little Talitha beside her, because they are scattered. Last implication. By Shana Schutte. God’s purpose for pain is trusting him in spite of it so that he shines as more valuable than what you have lost. He has no herds. Before you say good night… Is your faith strong enough to endure adversity? Hold on, hold on Hold on to your faith Seems like time is passing by (Hold on to your faith) I mean, it helps bee stings. FIRST, William Barkley wrote so many commentaries before he died here some years ago and most pastors of the generation just before me fed on those.

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